Is this a valid concern, is there anything I can say to reassure them? I have wanted a pair of cordovan tassel loafers for decades. Is Alden your preferred brand? Introducing our new Jumper Boot in the rare Dark Cognac Horween Shell Cordovan. Venetian Cream. I guess one factor in the generalisation is that outside the US, we mostly see the more casual models. Hi simon thanks. My experience is different. The Ultraflex System is our newest take on the Goodyear Welt construction A whole new system developed from scratch where Quality & Style meet real Comfort. Badalassi wax added in a dark brown my all time favourite leather and a nice chestnut buttero in slim style . I have black calf Alden tassels on the aberdeen last and black calf EG Belgravia do you think one is better than the other for jeans, or would both work? Simon I just received a pair of Alden Cordovan chukkas, do you recommend shoe trees for storage? Most leathers for shoes are by-products of the meat. Connoisseurs sometimes notice them and appreciatively comment. Add to Cart. Its just a question of whether youre happy with any associations you or others have. It is this texture in the creases that I think make it bridge formal and casual clothing. However, I would think carefully about the style. Recently Ive been struggling to figure out how to buy a perfect denim shirt. I think you have one in suede. Please. It is characterized by its tight grain structure and smooth feel. Many thanks, 94.55, 126.06 Coveted for its beautiful sheen and durability, this horse-based material it's usually considered leather, but we'll discuss why some folks don't put it in that category has a massive cult following and commands a high price tag. I guess it might be your feet, but then again I havent worn mine for 12 years either. See below for style specific care products. I live in topsiders during the summer months and these also seem to have strong ties to the Northeastern United States. Personally, no, I think brown works better though much more brown suede than leather. Hi Simon, do you think Aldens moc toe in Barrie last would be too casual and wide for mid-grey flannel trousers with 18.5cm leg openings? Ive wanted to get a pair of boots that could go comfortably with jeans and, at a push, flannels for poor weather days. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. Unfortunately Alden is also quite restrictive about international shipments and you cant order from the US to deliver to the UK. Its something I will look at correcting at some point, perhaps by stretching them a little. We've maintained the lines & look of our HOK last, but adjusted to be able to accommodate the double insole system during production, without affecting the overall fit. Also like the colour 8 shade that only comes from Alden. I am also fearing they are already past their prime I have a deer bone, the Alden Cordovan polish, etc., but the upper fronts are wavy, and I dont see the patina improving over time. I cant put my finger on exactly what makes these distinctly less formal than the Aldens, but theyre also one of Vibergs most formal offerings. Theyll look normal leather to most people, but will have that toughness, Hi Simon, I usually wear size UK8.5 E for most loafers. Theres no rule here just bear in mind that its a more casual material. But Ive not found it usually takes long to wear in - no longer, really, than the soles you get on a lot of English shoes. Many thanks, Providing excellent support while retaining a snug heel control so that the foot remains in place avoiding any slippage or sliding-forward to within the boot. General wisdom among Alden fans dictates that the Aberdeen fits true to (Brannock) size, and the Barrie is roomier all around, and can be worn a half size smaller. Alden long wing blucher Rare whiskey shell cordovan Full set with box and dust bag Size 8, fits senaker size US8.5-9 Made in USA Works like a charm and that is all they need as regards shoe care products. No, this was a slimmer prototype I was trying. Or should I worry about getting Cordovan Loafers later? In my far less informed opinion, they go very well with traditional navy, but especially mid gray worsted or flannel. They have burgundy, dark brown and black Lovely though the Aldens look, the associated hassle and inflated costs of getting them over the pond are significant deterrents for now. Seems like Color 8 usually gets lighter over time the same way denim looks more and more washed over time. They obviously look different, but wondering whether youd have them in the same category as not being obviously better than brown or black. But these creases make cordovan look like its 20 years old, almost from the first wear. Original Price 30.94 If were talking about just cordovan in Color 8 colour, then: 1) To an extent, though I think the brown has to be pretty dark These boots are not finished with any acrylic finish or coating, they're exclusively finished with natural creams & waxes to represent the leather in its pure state accepting all its beautiful properties. I like the style generally (sort of a dressed-up Doc Martin for the urban professional), and I assume you wear them with denim, which is a nice look (although I think the images above are actually from an article you did on similar Kaan shoes, correct?). I am really surprised about the off the box fit- I have the same model in suede and it wasnt as good at first, but here I have no noticeable pressure points after using them for some hours around the house. Simon why would you be reluctant to buy/wear a belt made of Cordovan ? Color #8 is a deep brown/burgundy shade that has become synonymous with the color name "cordovan". I havent found any to be perfect to be honest, but these from Skolyx are probably the best, particularly if you cut them down (they are quite big) if needed. I prefer them with wider trousers, or shorts. PRODUCT SPECS * Article: Classic Shell Cordovan * Tannery: Rocado (Italy) * Tannage: Vegetable Tanned * Full Grain: Yes * Finish: Full Aniline *. Simon, it is a great post. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. When it creases, the paler colour that comes up is like a pale purple or pink (which is surprising for some, and I know puts some off). Maybe its my feet which are bit biased towards the outer sides but I had to put in some extra insole in my two twenty year old pairs perhaps eight years ago, as they have become wider and my feet began to slip noticeably. I think it is really unique and pleasing to my eye because of the short vamp. In one way, yes it is. Sid and I have talked for a while about doing something. Your BB were by Alden and pretty sure all Alden Shell Cordovan has this acrylic finish, most others dont add that to their shell. But whether it was the best choice depends a lot on what you else you wear? I invested in my first pair of Alden Black Cordovan Tassel Loafer in January 1981 and still wear them today. It is intriguing to me. Would they go to the informality of jeans or would they be too smart? Take 1 full size down from your US size. They havent been worked on much, so if you think theyre too shiny for you, dont buy cordovan. Below you'll find the men's specific size chart: Goodyear Welted shoes & sneakers are made & fit quite differently. Currently at 260, I feel like I cant really beat AEs quality at this price point. Theyre really nice. They do a lot of boots, Red Wings etc. 3+ cards per pocket. And very marginally higher on the Alden tassel than the full strap too. Simon, you mention your black cordovan loafer from E. Green and your relative lack of enthusiasm for it when compared with color 8. Once your account is created, you'll be logged-in to this account. Though, with all the fats in the leather I have never found it necessary to administer shoe cream or polish. The instep feels a bit higher/fuller, which is good. Cordovan is a thicker and more oiled leather than calf, and as a result ripples more than wrinkles. I bought the Alden Plain Toe Blucher in Colour 8 at the San Francisco Alden in 2016, and returned to the same shop for the Black version in 2017. Introducing the Harlestone Hand Stitch Sneaker. I recommend doing it after every wear, if you can. Coveted by leather heads around the world, Color #8 is often referred to simply as 'Cordovan'. Cigar Living in Canada where we have snow (and salt to help melt the snow) for much of the year, Im wondering if cordovan shoes might provide the weather resistance to handle short walks (through a parking lot, to a cafe across the street) while still being smart enough for tailoring in the office. We also get your email address to automatically create an account for you in our website. Im normally an 8.5 in UK shoes, and I went for a 9.5 in the Barrie. Hey Simon! easily my fav shoes for the summers. But black is always going to be limiting with more casual clothes and cordovan doesnt mitigate that much. Thank you and much appreciate it! Wheel Robe x Leather Healer 5-inch Cap Toe Boots Dark Cognac Horween Shell Cordovan - Worn once, like new condition Collaboration between: - Wheel Robe (Japan) - Leather Healer (Hong Kong) Special order - not available through Wheel Robe's RTW collection Original retail price: HK$8800 (~US$1134) Size: UK 8E / US 8.5-9 Mongolia | English (US) | $ (USD), remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. I suppose the one generalization that fits, however, is on finish. Green. I understand Aldens LHS loafer is commonly done on the Van last. Is this ill advised for a first loafer? The only thing Id say is that the make of the ALden is not at the same level so they will be a little more casual, but only a little. Ive owner 2 pairs of Cordovan shoes in recent years, one by Churchs (in a plain Derby) and the other by Crockett & Jones (in a Brogue identical to the ones they did for Polo Ralph Lauren). That last is only more comfortable on most people because it is larger and so more forgiving. Due to the density of the fibers, Shell Cordovan, has no visible grain and will roll, rather than crease, with wear. 1. Thank you. However, just because a shoe works with lots of looks, it doesnt mean youre not losing something, and it is a little unusual as a colour so I can imagine not everyone will like it. You mention here, Simon, that you can remove certain scratches by brushing and buffing. Turning off personalized advertising opts you out of these sales. Learn more in our Privacy Policy., Help Center, and Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy. . Thank you, Simon. At the very least, if you think that on leather for shoes, you should be a vegetarian. Been thinking about getting them from gabucci for a while now. Did you had the same problem ? A low profile silhouette, hand-finished construction, and world-class materials have been specifically tailored and tweaked, further elevating the Crown Northampton Sneaker range to the highest levels possible. Certainly compared to Europe as a whole. Is the squeaking noise will decrease in few weeks ? But but they feel so uncomfortable around my toes. Tried half size down to 7.5 and it was quite snug fit with a little tight in the forefoot. Mahogany Cordovan. https://thearmoury.com/products/hudson-tassel-loafer?variant=32131236102215 Ive purchased half a dozen pairs over the last year. What shoes should I wear with brown trousers? It too is casual, and in a smart office I wouldnt wear it with a smart suit. Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. Share. As a long time fan of both Alden and Cordovan, Im glad to see youre a convert. Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. Jack. Have you noticed your shell cordovan loafers becoming any more comfortable after wearing them for some time ? In my experience they do stretch. Through the years Horween has dabbled in many custom shell cordovan but there most popular are black and color #8. I find it hard to describe as you can tell. Cordovan would be good, but the jumper style at least wouldnt be the best with flannels, more casual and good with the others. 2. I do love these shoes. Set where you live, what language you speak, and the currency you use. You need heat and pressure to do that, and the fat helps. On the waviness, are you keeping shoe trees in them after wear? Yes thats right. Its also a very versatile shoe for dressing up or dressing down. The full strap I think. Couldnt find anywhere in Uk. (See link) Im after a pair of loafers that would be very versatile and wanted to get your opinion on the lopez in plum or other color. My feet get very hot, and Ive noticed a small difference in my boots, but certainly nothing in my loafers. Hi Simon, quick question, are your full strap loafers on the Aberdeen the same size as your jumper boots on the Barrie last? To get to those layers the hides have to be sanded/shaved down to get to that level of the leather and it will produce a nap like a nubuck. I imagine there are more like it. Reserve not met. If you want another recommendation, look at the handful that Crocketts have in cordovan. Time left: 3d 5h | Current bid: GBP 399.00 [ 1 bid] Approximately US $497.41. Hi Simon ! Oh, I remember that from your Stockholm article now that you mention it. One thing thats certainly true, is that cordovan can be particularly uncomfortable if the shoe is too tight. Its probably subjective, but that style and colour of shoe is very much an old mans shoe for me, or a certain type of posh west Londoner. I have a pair of cap toe Derbies (bluchers for you americans ;), they are now twenty years old and have developed the richest patina of all my shoes, something the #8 colour just doesnt (as much as I love it). A classic and timeless menswear staple. That would have helped keep that upper smoother. The guy knows where to find everything all over the world. Do you send them back to Aldens factory in the US or do you use a local service? I like the comfort, the all day wearability. Both. Eyelets: Antique Brass. Explore by category CORDOVAN BOOTS CORDOVAN OXFORDS SHOES CORDOVAN MONK STRAP SHOES CORDOVAN LOAFERS CORDOVAN DERBY SHOES 48 Items Lasts Leathers Soles Any thoughts on the Alden Blutcher Plain Toe cordovan shoes? Perhaps a very small amount, but any actual fit issues havent changed. Ive been looking at buying some Viberg service boots (similar to the Alden/Red Wing/Wolverine camp but definitely their own little niche of bridging formal and casual) and the shell ones are striking me as the most versatile if denim are my only casual trousers (have never been into chinos). It looks longer on both tassel. What strap did you pair with the Merci watch? Very well worn. Im somewhat surprised that youve gotten over this aspect yourself and somewhat wish I could follow suit. No need to apply any. Are the Alden versions sufficiently versatile to wear with flannel, cords, and cavalry twill, maybe with an appropriate sports coat? Speaking of black, I bought those EG loafers in black cordovan largely for its toughness, but it doesnt have the same variation as colour 8, and therefore charm. Ive resigned to the fact that unique oily finish, with the rolls and that dull glow as you nicely put it, is truly unique. I also noticed that the lining leather wore out very quickly. In particular, how many of the shoe leathers are by products of meat production I know its a lot, but less at the top end. Colour Horween Dark Cognac Shell Cordovan Add to Cart $741.00 Description Horween Shell Cordovan upper Derby construction with French binding Traditional oak bark counter & stiffener Footbed cork filled by hand Sustainable Lactae Hevea sole Clicker's Notes - Material Made To Order - Delivery Times Tax Free Shopping - Non European Orders Shoe Care The production of Horween's Genuine Shell Cordovan is limited and this company has known how to take care of its reputation, since it only sells to prestigious shoe makers such as Carmina Shoemaker. Apologies if I might be slightly off-topic, but I couldnt find anywhere more relevant to ask you this question. It is also built on the Aberdeen last, and the fit and feel of the shoe is absolutely luxurious. I had one pair of Alden loafers in #8 years ago when I lived in the States. The purple/black colour is dark enough to go with lots of materials and styles of trousers, from denim to flannels. 8? 79.88, 93.97 Externally, all styles in the collection are made with the finest materials from some of the best tanneries in the world. You can easily buy all necessary equipment to care for Codovan leather from http://www.afinepairofshoes.co.uk. It does vary, and it will darken as you wear them too. Crocodile is my favourite but can be fiercely expensive.but I dont feel the need to tell people when wearing them !!! Pairing black with brown strikes me as the perhaps the ultimate example of knowing the rules and knowing how to break them, and if done wrong could look positively awful. When you login first time using a Social Login button, we collect your account public profile information shared by Social Login provider, based on your privacy settings. Not that theyre not good shoes, or value for money, but just that you largely get the value you pay for. You recognise the beauty and usefulness of the leather, its just an ethical question for you. But thats just brushing, not using polish or cream. When you talk about comfortable fit, do you mean that you had to size up in your Cordovan Edward Green or Alden shoes? Any thoughts? Thank you. I can wear these in the smartest of corporate/legal office environments in Manhattan and they are often the most appropriate and nicest looking shoes in the building. As many Americans of my generation did (and still do) we wore tassel loafers with pin and chalk stripe suits in classic corporate settings. My Alden Tassel Loafers on the Aberdeen last in the E fitting (Aldens widest fitting), are my most comfortable shoes. Youve written a few times about the versatility of brown suede chukka boots. Not necessarily size up from my normal size, but if I was unsure at all, or felt I was between sizes, then picking the larger one. But from what you write here about comfort and opting for the larger size (if in doubt) I figure that I ought to go for the size 8,5/ E rather than trying my luck on a pair in size 8,5 D ? Hi Simon great post. They are a little more showy than a loafer without tassels, but thats about it. Simon I like the cut on your Blackhorse Lane jeans could you advise as to which model you are wearing? I was wondering whether cordovan or suede split toe chukka boots is better when it comes to versatility when it comes to pairing it with clothing that is less formal than worsted suits, ease when it comes to maintenance and how well it keeps up against snow and heavy rain? Acme Shoemaker Apron Toe And how many of the vegan alternatives are plastics that wont biodegrade. BTW, Horween has produced very differing shades of colour #8 through the years. I have relatively slim legs compared to my feet width. I know its fine for the vast majority of makers and people, but that doesnt necessarily mean it will work for him and you. Apologies, yes youre right Visa. Do you have experience on this or advice for me. (I do brush them from time to time.). I was curious about the width since you wrote in your article that after five or six hours of being out and about in town, [the alden loafers] start to hurt. But if you like the latter just as much, maybe that works better for you. Hi Simon, See something like my oundles from Edward Green for example. Whats the verdict on the jumper boots? I am not sure if there is much variance in the quality of cordovan offered by Horween (as there is, for instance, with European tanneries). Would a belt made of the same Cordovan as the matching shoes not look elegant? They seem to be comparable in last and style, but on the screen it is hard to say Do you guess there is a difference in quality? And ideally a darker no8 shade, but not as big a factor. 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